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| − | <div></div> | + | <div></div><br> <br>It's... Quite late in the evening, the sun has already set, and most beings are already at home. Flora, on the other hand has opted to venture out and is now -quite insistantly- knocking on Selena's front door. |
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| + | Seems she's alone for the time being, although she has opted to bring her usual golem, Bastet, along for the ride. She's dressed in her standard LongTech uniform, as usual, and there's a bag of paperwork slung over her shoulders.<br> <br>Noticing the fervent knocking on her door, Selena opens a door from her master bedroom to upstairs, taking a moment to look down at her guest. "Flora, I haven't seen you in a long time." She greets, "Give me a moment, I'll be with you shortly." | ||
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| + | Surely enough, the canine emerges not too long after from the main door and ushers Flora into her living room, the space in reasonable order barring (arguably) a number of empty Cider bottles left neatly in a corner of the room, presumably for disposal. Opening another, she flashes a smile. "So, then, what can I do for you today? Of all the people I know here, you're the one I expect to have something in mind the most to have come out this way."<br> <br>"Been a while, yes. Flora has... Several things, yes. A thought. A project. Two projects, but Flora is already making good progress on the other one, the she-cat notes. Probably unintentionally cryptic, but cryptic none the less. | ||
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| + | Her tail flicks, and soon, she's got... Various sketches placed on whatever free surface she can find. Some sort of architectural design. Looks very ambitious, in any case. Then there's a beam-like design of one form of another, and something that appears to be a set of cylinders, perhaps weights. Everything, of course, is annotated with numbers, in typical Flora style. | ||
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| + | The final sketch is far more curious, and far less obvious. A cube within a cube.<br> <br>"Building blueprints off the table, please. I could do without a migraine this evening." Selena asks quickly, keeping her eyes off of the offending engineering. "The whole 'Can't deal with pure math' thing has got worse since I've been working more and more with 3D magic. It's actually becoming something of a problem now." she laments, taking a sip from her bottle. "Can I get you something to drink, while you're here? I don't have juice, but there's plenty of water." She offers, waiting for the blueprints to be removed from the table before taking any further action.<br> <br>"Water is fine, yes," Flora notes, as she removes the first three designs. "Right. yes... Flora has other versions. Without numbers or annotations or anything," she offers, as she pulls out another set of three drawings, looking at Selena for permission to place them on the table or not. The fourth drawing, of that cube, however, hasn't even been lifted yet. | ||
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| + | "Flora was actually thinking about that before, yes... That's what this one is for," she offers, as she points at the curious cube.<br> <br>Selena nods, quickly retrieving a glass of the liquid from her kitchen, sighing quietly as there are now more drawings on the table. Selena gathers the few of them, turning them over before she takes a look at the diagram she gestured at. "... I don't see what the point of the cube is, frankly. I'm just seeing a cube inside a cube." She replies with a shrug. "If it's some clever metaphor for adding another dimension to math, yes; theoretically possible - I'm fairly sure dedication points operate on it - if you look at the numbers but extremely hard to compensate for. I primarily work in kevinscopes, little known fact, so trying to work with anything that I can't produce physically becomes extremely tedious and representing 3d spells on paper? Well." She shakes her head, picking up a rather large book and putting it on the table. "This is ONE spell. Albeit a fairly precise one, considering it was originally creator-made. This is why people considered 3D magic impossible or impractical. If you can solve that problem... Then I'll happily work on it for you. Otherwise, implementing it directly is going to be near impossible with our current level of technology."<br> <br>"That was Flora's thought, yes. But maybe Flora can offer some help? Won't help with all kevinscopes, but at least some, yes," she offers, before drawing a simple water breathing spell. Perhaps not quite right, but the intent is clear. "To friend Selena, this is a kevinscope, yes? To Flora, it is a... Graph. A graphic formula. Like how it is a graphic spell to friend Selena, yes?" she offers, before jotting down tha accompanying formula or spell, depending on how it's looked at. "The spell as numbers, yes? Or, for Flora, the formula as numbers." | ||
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| + | "When Flora works with three values... Flora needs a three-dimensional formula, or a three-dimensional graph. Much like Friend Selena needs with three-dimensional spells, yes?" she offers, as she draws an extra axis, and turns the line into a surface. "Flora is pretty sure that's not a spell, but the idea is the same, yes?"<br> <br>"Yes, that would be correct on all counts." Selena replies, walking over to her workbench and producing a convoluted, knotted mess before placing it down on the table. "The problem is when you have to describe something like this on a piece of paper. The more dimensions being described on paper, the harder it becomes to do so accurately - if you were to sketch the surface of this, you'd miss the interior which is relevant as well to the nature of the spell. Depending exactly on what it's for, that could range from benign to catastrophic. Fire magic, especially, is something you should never cut corners with. So unless you're representing that graph like this..." quickly jotting out a simple f(x)=2x+3 for emphasis, "it quickly becomes an issue."<br> <br>"Of course, yes. But... It's possible to store much more information than normal," Flora notes, as she draws the same line as before, besides the original picture, but this time, carefully using a sequence of pens to color in each segment based on its height. And then she draws the same line, one-dimensionally. "Same spell. Same formula. But the two-dimensional graph is now one dimension. And color. And while it's not easy on paper... Flora is sure friend Selena can -think- of color, yes? Draw it in her head?" | ||
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| + | "Doesn't work for 'filled' graphs, no. But for simpler three-dimensional spells... Improvements of two-dimensiona ones. Not the ones that are fully three-dimensional like that one," she notes, as she gestures to the knotted object. | ||
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| + | Flora quickly jots down two separate formulae, one being a simple Z = x + y, the other a more complicated one, describing a filled sphere... | ||
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| + | "The first one would be an improved two-dimensional spell, yes? The latter would be a purely three-dimensional spell, yes. But the first... The first can be done with color," she adds, before sketching a sqaure, and partially coloring it in. | ||
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| + | "Flora isn't sure if friend Selena had thought of this yet, but if not... Might make the basics more accessible, yes?" | ||
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It's... Quite late in the evening, the sun has already set, and most beings are already at home. Flora, on the other hand has opted to venture out and is now -quite insistantly- knocking on Selena's front door.
Seems she's alone for the time being, although she has opted to bring her usual golem, Bastet, along for the ride. She's dressed in her standard LongTech uniform, as usual, and there's a bag of paperwork slung over her shoulders.
Noticing the fervent knocking on her door, Selena opens a door from her master bedroom to upstairs, taking a moment to look down at her guest. "Flora, I haven't seen you in a long time." She greets, "Give me a moment, I'll be with you shortly."
Surely enough, the canine emerges not too long after from the main door and ushers Flora into her living room, the space in reasonable order barring (arguably) a number of empty Cider bottles left neatly in a corner of the room, presumably for disposal. Opening another, she flashes a smile. "So, then, what can I do for you today? Of all the people I know here, you're the one I expect to have something in mind the most to have come out this way."
"Been a while, yes. Flora has... Several things, yes. A thought. A project. Two projects, but Flora is already making good progress on the other one, the she-cat notes. Probably unintentionally cryptic, but cryptic none the less.
Her tail flicks, and soon, she's got... Various sketches placed on whatever free surface she can find. Some sort of architectural design. Looks very ambitious, in any case. Then there's a beam-like design of one form of another, and something that appears to be a set of cylinders, perhaps weights. Everything, of course, is annotated with numbers, in typical Flora style.
The final sketch is far more curious, and far less obvious. A cube within a cube.
"Building blueprints off the table, please. I could do without a migraine this evening." Selena asks quickly, keeping her eyes off of the offending engineering. "The whole 'Can't deal with pure math' thing has got worse since I've been working more and more with 3D magic. It's actually becoming something of a problem now." she laments, taking a sip from her bottle. "Can I get you something to drink, while you're here? I don't have juice, but there's plenty of water." She offers, waiting for the blueprints to be removed from the table before taking any further action.
"Water is fine, yes," Flora notes, as she removes the first three designs. "Right. yes... Flora has other versions. Without numbers or annotations or anything," she offers, as she pulls out another set of three drawings, looking at Selena for permission to place them on the table or not. The fourth drawing, of that cube, however, hasn't even been lifted yet.
"Flora was actually thinking about that before, yes... That's what this one is for," she offers, as she points at the curious cube.
Selena nods, quickly retrieving a glass of the liquid from her kitchen, sighing quietly as there are now more drawings on the table. Selena gathers the few of them, turning them over before she takes a look at the diagram she gestured at. "... I don't see what the point of the cube is, frankly. I'm just seeing a cube inside a cube." She replies with a shrug. "If it's some clever metaphor for adding another dimension to math, yes; theoretically possible - I'm fairly sure dedication points operate on it - if you look at the numbers but extremely hard to compensate for. I primarily work in kevinscopes, little known fact, so trying to work with anything that I can't produce physically becomes extremely tedious and representing 3d spells on paper? Well." She shakes her head, picking up a rather large book and putting it on the table. "This is ONE spell. Albeit a fairly precise one, considering it was originally creator-made. This is why people considered 3D magic impossible or impractical. If you can solve that problem... Then I'll happily work on it for you. Otherwise, implementing it directly is going to be near impossible with our current level of technology."
"That was Flora's thought, yes. But maybe Flora can offer some help? Won't help with all kevinscopes, but at least some, yes," she offers, before drawing a simple water breathing spell. Perhaps not quite right, but the intent is clear. "To friend Selena, this is a kevinscope, yes? To Flora, it is a... Graph. A graphic formula. Like how it is a graphic spell to friend Selena, yes?" she offers, before jotting down tha accompanying formula or spell, depending on how it's looked at. "The spell as numbers, yes? Or, for Flora, the formula as numbers."
"When Flora works with three values... Flora needs a three-dimensional formula, or a three-dimensional graph. Much like Friend Selena needs with three-dimensional spells, yes?" she offers, as she draws an extra axis, and turns the line into a surface. "Flora is pretty sure that's not a spell, but the idea is the same, yes?"
"Yes, that would be correct on all counts." Selena replies, walking over to her workbench and producing a convoluted, knotted mess before placing it down on the table. "The problem is when you have to describe something like this on a piece of paper. The more dimensions being described on paper, the harder it becomes to do so accurately - if you were to sketch the surface of this, you'd miss the interior which is relevant as well to the nature of the spell. Depending exactly on what it's for, that could range from benign to catastrophic. Fire magic, especially, is something you should never cut corners with. So unless you're representing that graph like this..." quickly jotting out a simple f(x)=2x+3 for emphasis, "it quickly becomes an issue."
"Of course, yes. But... It's possible to store much more information than normal," Flora notes, as she draws the same line as before, besides the original picture, but this time, carefully using a sequence of pens to color in each segment based on its height. And then she draws the same line, one-dimensionally. "Same spell. Same formula. But the two-dimensional graph is now one dimension. And color. And while it's not easy on paper... Flora is sure friend Selena can -think- of color, yes? Draw it in her head?"
"Doesn't work for 'filled' graphs, no. But for simpler three-dimensional spells... Improvements of two-dimensiona ones. Not the ones that are fully three-dimensional like that one," she notes, as she gestures to the knotted object.
Flora quickly jots down two separate formulae, one being a simple Z = x + y, the other a more complicated one, describing a filled sphere...
"The first one would be an improved two-dimensional spell, yes? The latter would be a purely three-dimensional spell, yes. But the first... The first can be done with color," she adds, before sketching a sqaure, and partially coloring it in.
"Flora isn't sure if friend Selena had thought of this yet, but if not... Might make the basics more accessible, yes?"
